Minutes from Community centre residents working group meeting – 25th March 2025
Minutes
Attendees: Karen, Dayal, Elena, David, Dan, Dave
Apologies: Kate, Vanessa, Friedrich
Updates: Liam
Notes:
- Liam sent updates
- Has put Karen in touch with the ‘Corporate Landlord’ team about access to the yard
- Hopes to provide a update on the building survey soon.
- Suggests reaching out to Haringey Community Collaborative (publicvoice.london/haringeycollaborative/)
- DM suggestions (and following discussion)
- agrees we should do a consultation, in person preferably
- Will share Hub business plan
- Look for lots of people, all sorts of skills, time and commitment needed
- Work in parallel on getting in and short term plan as well as long term plan and business plan
- Entity:
- Might be better to be a separate entity to the residents group
- Hub started as “Friends of”, then became Coop
- Good to have an entity from day 1, that you can then show has been around and has built experience/track record
- Letting, and engaging with other charities, council, etc. might require entity to be a Coop/CIC or BCorp
- Good to have separate membership.
- Dan: Will likely have people on both groups, and make sure that means we get the most from all groups
- Bank accounts are tricky, but Friends of TG Park just got a new one, and also examples of Allotments, RG, The Hub, etc.
- Anti-social behaviour around 100TG:
- Need to think about how to deal with people lingering and drinking around there
- Lordship Rec entrance has become a problem spot, and this extends to 100TG
- Could use alternate entrance through yard to avoid using main entrance right where people drink, and to have more control
- Caution around how and when we open to public
- Set the mood for the space e.g. by having a kids focus from start
- Social Value Leases:
- DM: Hub provides services inc. volunteering hours, public toilets (difficult), free use for park groups, cafe
- Took 5 years to negotiate lease after already in and running as Coop
- Council wants to limit discounts to 20% or more of market value
- Engaging with other groups/potential partners/users of 100TG
- DM: 4 groups semi-locally that need a kitchen e.g. for food distribution. Difficult, and can attract problems, but an option if we have a kitchen. Food poverty is quite a high priority right now.
- DM: would be good to have more groups. DE: Wolves Lane example with multiple groups; also SS market.
- Business plan:
- DE: what social value model to use? HACT4.0 is more about social housing, but could be a good angle to focus on Estate and support of residents… Energy efficiency, Rent Association – run multiple advice sessions.
- Council due to release their model at next meeting – assuming this will be what they want us to use.
- Climate angle e.g. panels on roof…
- Access to building and state of yard (Karen)
- Decking and floor surface in back space in poorest state, front yard and ground floor better.
- Karen has given the council some details for potential uses of the outside space
- We will need to complete a risk assessment before using the yard, and get the ok from the council’s health & safety team
- Group reviewed the survey, poster, graphics and community board
- September exhibition needs to be flagged to OpenHouse by end of May if happening. Would need permission to use at least some of the interior.
- May engagement event for residents:
- Best weekend is 17th, probably Saturday
- Need to put out surveys and posters immediately
- DE to work on updated image for posters
- Might want name of group already?
- Start by putting up survey, promoting on website, putting posters around and then see how it goes before thinking about flyers